The LDL Cholesterol Story is Falling Apart

LDL and Atherosclerosis - New Study

Focus on THIS Instead: Poor Metabolic Health and Low HDL is a Greater Predictor of Coronary Artery Calcium than LDL Cholesterol

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A new study finds poor metabolic health and low HDL is a greater predictor of coronary artery calcium than LDL cholesterol.

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—————————————-Show Notes————————————-

0:00 Intro
0:30 LDL does not correlate with the degree of coronary artery plaque.
1:02 HDL is protective against coronary artery disease and plaquing.
2:10 Triglycerides correlate with diabetes, coronary artery disease and plaquing.
3:45 HDL size is highly predictive.
5:15 LDL, vLDL, and IDL had no strong association.
8:00 LDL may be lower with prediabetes and diabetes, reflecting imbalance.
12:10 HDL is increased by lifestyle.
13:00 Plaquing is more common in diabetics.
15:47 High triglycerides increase odds of metabolic disease by 100%.
18:00 The smaller HDL particles become, the less protective they are.
19:13 Coronary artery calcium is associated with HDL size, concentration and composition.
21:20 High HDL with low triglycerides is linked with better metabolic health.
23:10 Exercise increases the size and number of your protective HDL.

Transcript

Intro

0:00a new study found that LDL cholesterol

0:02does not strongly correlate with the

0:04degree of coronary artery

0:06atherosclerosis this is a very important

0:08study I’m going to talk slow

0:10intentionally so that no messages Get

0:12Lost in Translation this is a study that

0:15was just published in the international

0:16Journal of Cardiology involving 5,000

0:19patients that were normal glycemic

0:21pre-diabetic or diabetic and that was

0:24the first part of the study they wanted

0:25to investigate and see whether the

0:28degree of diabetes ore diabetes

LDL does not correlate with the degree of coronary artery plaque.

0:30correlated with coronary artery calcium

0:33scores they also then wanted to see

0:35which diabetic related biomarkers and

0:38lipid related biomarkers were linked

0:39with the degree of coronary artery

0:42calcium scores so this is really

0:44fascinating now what they found is that

0:46LDL cholesterol was not correlated with

0:50the degree of coronary artery calcium uh

0:53plaing now this is really important

0:55because again most doctors like to monom

0:57manically focus on lowering your LDL

1:00cholesterol but it turned out that HDL

HDL is protective against coronary artery disease and plaquing.

1:03cholesterol the so-called good

1:05cholesterol that is increased when you

1:07exercise when you have a low carb diet

1:09when you have healthier fats and less

1:11processed sugar in your diet your HDL

1:14generally increases HDL specifically the

1:17larger buoyant HDL particles were more

1:21protective against both metabolic

1:23disease as well as the degree of

1:25coronary artery plaing and again they

1:28used a CT scan to look at the degree of

1:31severity and calcification in the

1:33coronary arteries including the left

1:36anterior descending coronary artery the

1:37one that is known as the Widowmaker and

1:39highly susceptible to becoming plaqued

1:41and atherosclerotic and again is

1:44correlated with major Adverse

1:45cardivascular Events but let’s dive into

1:48this this is a really important study I

1:50strongly suggest you take some notes

1:51because we’re going to dive into some

1:53aspects of lipoprotein particles and I

1:56think this is important because again

1:58most doctors are measuring the

2:00cholesterol content in your particles

2:02not the particles themselves and this is

2:04a very important distinction and this is

2:06what the investigators used Beyond just

2:09looking at the cholesterol content of

Triglycerides correlate with diabetes, coronary artery disease and plaquing.

2:11the particles and it turns out that your

2:13HDL particles your vldl particles your

2:15LDL particles traffic phospholipids

2:19triglycerides and cholesterol but as you

2:22become more prone to developing diabetes

2:24and are on the path of insulin

2:26resistance the composition of your LDL

2:29HDL and vldl particles becomes enriched

2:32in

2:33triglycerides and guess what that is

2:35correlated with Corry artery

2:38atherosclerosis and plaing as well as a

2:42higher propensity to develop diabetes

2:45and so this is really important stuff

2:46we’re going to dive into this so the

2:48title of this study is lipoproteins and

2:50lipoprotein lipid composition are

2:53associated with stages of dis glycemia

2:55and subclinical coronary atherosclerosis

2:58as I mentioned this is actually ahead of

3:00print this is going to be published in

3:022025 probably January in the the

3:05international Journal of Cardiology

3:07there were 5,000 study participants that

3:09were part of a big cohort I think of the

3:11bioimaging cohort in uh Sweden and they

3:14also looked using a CT uh Scan Imaging

3:18to enumerate coronary artery calcium

3:20scores and that is going to give us

3:23better insights into the degree of

3:25subclinical coronary artery AOS

3:28sclerosis and so I think this is

3:29important and they looked at

3:31225 biomarkers okay so 32 biomarkers

3:35were associated with pre-diabetes and

3:37diabetes and were further investigated

3:39for their associations with coronary

3:41artery calcium scores here’s what they

3:44found the HDL diameter the size of the

HDL size is highly predictive.

3:48HDL now you’re very familiar with HDL

3:50because it’s known as the so-called good

3:52cholesterol but there’s different

3:53flavors of HL you have small HL

3:56particles and large big bigger larger

3:59diameter HL particles as you are become

4:02more metabolically healthy you lose the

4:03visceral fat you exercise more your V2

4:06Max increases you’re cutting out hyper

4:08palatable processed carbohydrates and

4:10sugars and Seed Wells and things like

4:11that guess what happens your liver

4:13starts making bigger more protective

4:15more Health promoting HL particles it

4:17turns out that this was the most

4:20sensitive and specific biomarker that

4:22not only predicted the degree of

4:24metabolic Health but the presence or

4:27lack thereof of coronary artery calcium

4:29I which is a direct reflection of

4:33atherosclerosis and so this was uh the

4:36size of HDL was among all the different

4:39biomarkers that they looked at was the

4:40most strongly tethered with a lower odds

4:44of having coronary artery calcium so

4:46this is really important and they want

4:47to say that there was no consistent

4:50Association for non-hdl lipoproteins non

4:55HDL such as vldl LDL Remnant lipoprotein

4:58or IDL Etc and coronary artery calcium

5:02scoring so what does this mean this

5:03doesn’t mean that in all individuals

5:05that HL is never a problem but in this

5:08analysis of 5,000 people the

5:12lipoprotein the the cholesterol if you

LDL, vLDL, and IDL had no strong association.

5:15will the the HDL was most strongly

5:17tethered inversely correlated with corn

5:21artery calcium scores there was not a

5:23strong statistical association with vldl

5:26or LDL or IDL with Corner artery calcium

5:31scoring and I want to really dive into

5:33this because this is very important but

5:35first I want to thank you for being here

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5:41dive into the weeds in this study I

5:42think you’ll really find some value from

5:45this so that you can better stratify

5:47your risk uh of cardiovascular disease

5:49and also optimize your prevention

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6:43getting back to the study again the

6:44study is really good because it helps us

6:46better understand how blood sugar

6:48disregulation and even having

6:50pre-diabetes is linked with higher risk

6:52of getting coronary artery uh

6:55atherosclerosis and increasing our our

6:57likelihood of developing a major a heart

7:00attack and or a stroke down the road so

7:02the investigators say derangements in

7:04both glucose and lipid metabolism

7:06characterize the clinical course of

7:08diabetes and increase the risk of aosc

7:10cardiovascular disease the most common

7:12cause of death in persons with diabetes

7:14so again it’s not only the most common

7:16cause of death here in the US and

7:18throughout the world for all people but

7:20especially in people with pre and

7:23diabetes individuals with both

7:25pre-diabetes and diabetes have different

7:27degree of dysliidemia typically High

7:29circulating triglycerides low HL

7:32cholesterol and high amounts of small

7:34dense LDL with normal or slightly

7:37elevated total cholesterol and LDL

7:40cholesterol levels are observed in

7:42individuals with diabetes however lipids

7:44and lipoprotein circulating levels and

7:46their composition differ greatly in

7:48individuals with diabetes depending upon

7:50the stage of the disease metabolic

7:52compensation and type of treatment

7:55here’s where it gets really interesting

7:56and this may be new to you but this has

7:58been long known in the literature

LDL may be lower with prediabetes and diabetes, reflecting imbalance.

8:01observational and Interventional Studies

8:02have shown in fact that LDL cholesterol

8:04levels may be lower in individuals with

8:08diabetes as compared to individuals

8:10without diabetes I’m going to show you a

8:11table soon but let’s just pause here

8:13let’s just go back and reread what they

8:15said I know you heard me but I just want

8:17to solidify this point because it’s

8:18really important observational and

8:20Interventional Studies have shown in

8:22fact that LDL cholesterol levels may be

8:24even lower in individuals with diabetes

8:27as compared to individuals without

8:30diabetes now here’s what’s interesting

8:32as we just learned the number one cause

8:35of death in individuals who have

8:37diabetes is heart disease okay this is

8:40long this is well known well established

8:42at this point but it’s also now well

8:44established that even in diabetics their

8:47LDL cholesterol levels are actually

8:49lower than you might see in normal

8:52glycemic individuals which is quite

8:54perplexing and this is why going back in

8:572007 2008 2009 I actually sold Advanced

9:00lipoprotein particle testing to doctors

9:02for this very reason to help them better

9:04stratify risk assessment for their

9:06pre-diabetic patients because it turns

9:09out that you can really see the

9:12arthrogenic changes in the lipids using

9:15Advanced lipoprotein particle testing

9:18above and beyond what you normally get

9:20from commercial Labs now it’s

9:22embarrassing to say this was a hard sell

9:24to cardiologists at the time to Family

9:26Medicine doctors to Internal Medicine

9:28doctors that would look at me now

9:30everyone uses NMR or Berkeley heart Labs

9:32or Ultra scentific there’s a lot of

9:35different modalities to uh enumerate the

9:37composition of LDL and vldl and HL

9:40particles now this is years later common

9:43practice but back then a lot of doctors

9:44were like how was this going to change

9:46my clinical decision making because

9:49there wasn’t apparently a lot of

9:50emphasis in medical school on the idea

9:53that as you become more pre-diabetic and

9:56diabetic and more insulin resistant the

9:58composition of particles actually change

10:01if I just have a book here for reference

10:03Imagine This Is A lipoprotein particle

10:06that’s trafficking phospholipids

10:08cholesterol vitamins like vitamin K2 or

10:10co-enzyme Q10 as well as cholesterol as

10:13you get more insulin resistant let’s

10:15just say in a healthy metabolically

10:17healthy individual there’s roughly 5050

10:20if you look at this little border here

10:22uh 50% triglycerides and 50% cholesterol

10:25in the lipoprotein particles such as an

10:27LDL or vldl particle

10:29as you become more insulin resistant

10:32that act the cholesterol content in the

10:34particle becomes reduced and there’s

10:35more triglycerides in the particle and

10:38that’s linked with increased

10:40atherosclerosis and that might be

10:42reflected in the serum as a lower LDL

10:45cholesterol level but that doesn’t

10:47necessarily reflect an improvement in

10:49metabolic Health it reflects actually uh

10:52disease in terms of metabolic health and

10:54so this is why looking at the

10:55lipoprotein particles is so important

10:57and that’s exactly what these investig

10:59found is that the composition of the

11:01particles shift in the wrong direction

11:04they become triglyceride enriched and

11:06that’s problematic and that’s why we

11:08often see and hear about these j-shaped

11:10associations with LDL cholesterol and

11:12coronary artery disease where

11:14individuals with really low LDL

11:15cholesterol levels actually have advance

11:18or at are at higher risk often times for

11:21major adverse cardiovascular events and

11:22having coronary artery plaque and high

11:25coronary artery calcium scores because

11:27the cholesterol content of the particles

11:30becomes reduced in relation to the

11:32triglyceride content does that make

11:34sense let me know in the comments I hope

11:36hope I hope I explain that and again I

11:38think doctors are now finally waking up

11:40to this it took a better part of a

11:42decade for this to become mainstream

11:43clinical practice and this is why the

11:46investigators say to this end we aim to

11:48identify a dyslipidemic profile based on

11:51lipid and lipoprotein concentration

11:53lipoprotein lipid content again that

11:55would mean the amount of cholesterol

11:57versus triglyceride in the particles and

11:59metabolites able to discern individuals

12:02across three glycemic categories defined

12:04as normal glycemic pre-diabetic or

12:06diabetic okay that was a lot of jargon

12:09let’s get to the simple tables the

HDL is increased by lifestyle.

12:11tables I think tell the story so we see

12:14the normal glycemic patients the

12:15pre-diabetic patients and the diabetic

12:17patients here uh in table one now what

12:21what I think is interesting about this

12:22table uh is first of all the relative

12:25proportions of normal glycemic

12:27individuals who do moderate or vigor R

12:29physical activity compared to the people

12:31who have diabetes and do really low

12:33amounts of all types of exercise and so

12:35I think that’s really important we know

12:37that exercise is a great way to increase

12:39your HDL this is the thing so HDL is

12:43increased by lifestyle and that’s why we

12:45don’t hear a lot of M mainstream doctors

12:47talking about this because there’s not a

12:48pill there’s not a drug there’s not a

12:50Statin that will increase HDL you have

12:52to earn it by way of exercise so I think

12:54that’s really interesting now going to

12:56table two this is where things get even

12:58a little bit more curious as you can see

Plaquing is more common in diabetics.

13:00here the coronary artery calcium scoring

13:03uh meaning the degree of plaing uh was

13:06much more common in diabetics it was

13:08present in 62% of diabetics compared to

13:11just 44% of individuals with

13:13pre-diabetes and only 37% of individuals

13:17with normal glycemia isn’t that

13:19interesting now let’s go on and look at

13:21LDL as you can see here low density

13:25lipoprotein the so-called bad

13:27cholesterol as you can imagine it is

13:31going down in individual so remember 62%

13:36of the

13:37diabetics had high corner re artery

13:40calcium scores but when we compare LDL

13:43cholesterol in the normal glycemic Group

13:46which only had 30 37% of these

13:48individuals had high coronary re artery

13:50calcium scores the individuals had

13:53higher LDL cholesterol in the normal

13:55normal glycemic group compared to the

13:57pre and full-on diabetic group you can

14:00see the LDL cholesterol and this is

14:02nanal per liter goes from 3.5 nanal per

14:06liter in the normal glycemic group and

14:08it drops down to 2.7 in the diabetic

14:11group but remember coronary artery

14:14calcium scoring was significantly higher

14:17in 62% of the diabetics compared to only

14:1937% of the non-diabetics and 44% of the

14:23pre-diabetics and so there is not a

14:25strong relationship with LDL cholesterol

14:28and you and we’ll see that on the next

14:29slide which is what I think is

14:31interesting and we also see an inverse

14:35Association uh if you look at the

14:37characteristics here uh eight shell

14:39cholesterol is much higher in the normal

14:41glycemic group compared to the

14:42pre-diabetic group canted protein is

14:44much lower in the normal glycemic group

14:46compared to the uh diabetic group and

14:49you can see here the calcium scoring of

14:51the um different corn arteries and so

14:54forth and and I think that’s very

14:56interesting blood pressure uh was much

14:58higher in the diabetics compared to the

14:59non-diabetics Weist ratio is much higher

15:02than the diabetics compared to the

15:03non-diabetics so again if we’re trying

15:05to optimize cardiovascular health and

15:07prevent a major adverse cardiovascular

15:08event we need to focus on metabolic

15:11Health on visceral adapost tisue on

15:13waste to hip ratios on blood pressure uh

15:15on increasing HL and also it’s worth

15:18noting here that triglycerides actually

15:21were significantly higher in the

15:23diabetics and pre-diabetics compared to

15:25the normal glycemic group how often do

15:27we hear doctors focusing on

15:29triglycerides they often focus on LDL

15:30cholesterol so I know by now you’re

15:32getting the story you’re understanding

15:33that there’s this correlation with non

15:36LDL particles and and corn artery

15:39atherosclerosis and so forth okay so

15:41let’s look at this figure here this is

15:42the odds ratio this is what I think is

15:45really interesting and it goes back to

15:46the composition of the particles

High triglycerides increase odds of metabolic disease by 100%.

15:49remember we’re just using this book as a

15:51as a easy way to visualize this this is

15:53either an HDL or a vldl or an LDL

15:56roughly in in metabolically healthy

15:58people might be relatively evenly split

16:01between the cholesterol content in the

16:03particle because again your blood is

16:04water-based so you need these

16:06lipoprotein particles to travel in the

16:08water and and in the the water-based uh

16:11plasma and blood and inside them is the

16:14fats because if you’ve ever made pasta

16:16you put olive oil in your pasta or

16:18butter uh in you make your Mac and

16:20Cheese it floats to the top it doesn’t

16:22disperse well well it it it it uh

16:25separates and so that’s why you need

16:26these particles and as you become more

16:29metabolically unhealthy they become

16:30triglyceride enriched and that’s what

16:32we’re seeing on this figure right here

16:35in the individuals who are diabetic or

16:37pre-diabetic you see the ratio of

16:40triglycerides within the vldl uh and the

16:43LDL particles is significantly increased

16:46and they’re only able to figure this out

16:48using NMR and so you see here there’s

16:51the odds uh of the correlation with

16:55triglyceride enriched vldl increases the

16:58odds of the presence of metabolic

17:00Disease by 100% so the odds the odds

17:02ratio here is two uh so 100% increase

17:06and and this is even if go on down the

17:08list I mean you see um the cholesterol

17:11content of the particles uh is linked

17:13with a lower odds of diabetes as well as

17:16Corner artery artherosclerosis so

17:18basically this is confirming what we

17:20just talked about that the composition

17:23of the hlv LDL and LDL particles tends

17:25to Pivot to be L cholesterol enriched to

17:28more triglyceride enriched and that’s

17:31why triglycerides I think are a great

17:32biomarker because when you see

17:34triglycerides increase in the blood you

17:36can also reasonably assume that they are

17:39increasing in the uh particles and that

17:41is increasing the arthrogenic nature of

17:43the particles Mak meaning that they’re

17:45more prone to causing the coronary

17:48artery calcium deposition in

17:50atherosclerosis so I think this figure

17:53uh is quite interesting and let’s

17:55further dive into this the investigators

17:57say increasing circul levels of small

The smaller HDL particles become, the less protective they are.

18:00HCL is associated with diabetes with an

18:03odge ratio of 1.37 so the smaller your

18:07protective HCL become the less

18:09protective those HCL particles are and

18:11so they are linked with a greater odds

18:13of developing not only diabetes but also

18:16developing coronary artery

18:17atherosclerosis which is bad they also

18:19say among the HL lipid components

18:22phospholipids in the HDL in the small HL

18:25excuse me was associated with diabetes

18:27on the contrary the large lipid enriched

18:30HCL was associated with a lower risk of

18:33diabetes they say lipid components in

18:35large and extra-large hgl were highly

18:37correlated uh with a lower risk of

18:40diabetes they say an increase in the

18:43vldl mean diameter was associated with

18:45diabetes with an odds ratio of 1.42

18:47which means a 42% greater odds of

18:50developing diabetes if you have a big

18:53vldl or high vldl I think that’s

18:55important because vldl is something that

18:58we should be measuring and we’ve talked

18:59about the vl2 triglyceride ratio before

19:02and how that’s problematic so they they

19:04go on to talk about some other

19:05lipoproteins here but let’s get to the

19:08conclusion because I think this is

19:10really important the investigators say

19:12the occurrence of coronary artery

Coronary artery calcium is associated with HDL size, concentration and composition.

19:13calcium was associated with HCL size

19:16concentration and composition

19:19consistently with previous observations

19:21in normoglycemic study participants

19:23circulating levels of small HDL were

19:25slightly increased in those treated with

19:27statins as compared to non-treated which

19:29we also observed in the group with

19:30pre-diabetes the investigators say in

19:32conclusion we identified 32 biomarkers

19:35mirroring circulating levels of

19:37lipoproteins lipoprotein components and

19:39metabolites associated with pre-diabetes

19:41diabetes in a small contemporary Swedish

19:43population among these 32 biomarkers an

19:46excess of small circulating HDL

19:49particles not good you want your HDL to

19:50be bigger was associated with the

19:52occurrence of subclinical coronary

19:54atherosclerosis estimated by the

19:56coronary artery calcium score by way of

19:58a CT scan further we show that if lipid

20:00lowering drugs were dispensed the

20:02association of small AG shell with the

20:05occurrence of coronary artery calcium

20:06scoring was modified although the

20:09interaction analysis did not attain a

20:10formal statistical significance in

20:12conclusion they say consistently we

20:14observed larger vldl levels in

20:16individuals with pre-diabetes and

20:18diabetes but also a relative increase in

20:20triglyceride concentrations of the vdl

20:23IDL and LDL regardless of the

20:25concentration and diameter of the single

20:27like lipoprotein I’m going to explain

20:29that in just a moment diabetes

20:31Associated dysliidemia was commonly

20:33defined by the presence of high

20:34triglycerides low HDL and elevated

20:37levels of small dense LDL total and LDL

20:40cholesterol levels are commonly reported

20:42as normal or slightly higher as compared

20:44to the normal glycemic population in our

20:47study we observe that total as well as

20:50LDL cholesterol levels were consistently

20:52lower in pre-diabetes and diabetes than

20:56in normal glycemic individuals in the

20:58presence and absence of dispensed lipid

21:01lowering drugs lower LDL cholesterol

21:03levels have been reported in individuals

21:05with diabetes in both observational and

21:08Interventional studies with low LDL

21:10cholesterol levels being associated with

21:12an increased risk of coronary events in

21:14the presence of high triglycerides and

21:16low HDL recently biomarkers associated

21:19with LDL cholesterol were found to be

High HDL with low triglycerides is linked with better metabolic health.

21:21inversely related to the risk of

21:23developing diabetes in the UK biobank

21:27data set okay what does this all mean

21:30clearly there is a strong association

21:33with metabolic disease and the presence

21:35of coronary artery calcium scoring which

21:37reflects the degree of atherosclerosis

21:40which then reflects the risk of

21:42developing a major adverse carvas event

21:45which as you know is the number one

21:46leading cause mortality we know that

21:49having high hgl low triglycerides

21:53irrespective of LDL is linked with

21:56better metabolic Health it turns out

21:58that in individuals who are on the

22:00trajectory or path of developing

22:02diabetes their LDL cholesterol levels

22:05can actually go down so if we monom

22:07manically focus on lowering LDL or using

22:10LDL as the sinic quinon biomarker of

22:12risk for coronary artery atherosclerosis

22:14we are missing the boat we need to

22:16further expand our repertoire of lipid

22:20species that we look at and look at

22:22triglycerides look at HCL look at

22:25vldl knowing because the composition of

22:29the particles can shift as you become

22:31more inso resistant your L the the

22:34cholesterol concentration of your

22:36lipoprotein particles goes down and

22:38because the freed wal equation which is

22:41the way that your LDL cholesterol is

22:43enumerated when you go and get your

22:44physical or common blood work it’s

22:46looking at the cholesterol content not

22:48the particles themselves so that can

22:50give you a false positive and that’s why

22:53we are seeing statistically there’s a

22:55large percentage of people who have

22:56fatal heart attacks with normal or low

22:58LDL cholesterol levels so it’s time that

23:01we broaden our scope just you know if

23:03you’re looking through a telescope just

23:04move out a little bit and look more at

23:06the bigger picture here so where does

23:08this leave us this leaves us knowing

Exercise increases the size and number of your protective HDL.

23:11that exercise is really important

23:12because it it can increase the size of

23:15your protective HDL and increase the

23:17total number of HDL particles that you

23:19have and it can lower your blood

23:21triglycerides which can obviously are a

23:24strong reflection of optimal metabolic

23:26health and therefore

23:28reduce the odds that you will develop

23:31calcified arteries and and increase the

23:34presence of

23:36atherosclerosis so download our blood

23:39Retreat sheet go to high-intensity

23:40health.com definitely opt in for that

23:41because on page one we talk all about

23:43this along with LP little a we talk

23:45about fibrinogen we talk about other

23:47apob to A1 ratios in this but I think

23:50this study is incredibly fascinating I

23:52really hope you got some value from this

23:53I know we talked about some jargonistic

23:54terms and things like that um but

23:57hopefully the figures the tables will

23:59really help you better understand the

24:01significance of this study and better

24:04help us make strategic lifestyle changes

24:07to optim or lower our chasar risk and

24:10optimize metabolic Health we’ll catch

24:13you on a future video down the road

24:15until then be well

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